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who’s the worst father of the show ?
it’s all in the title but like who do you think is the worst father ?
they were all bad but some had good intentions behind their actions and they loved their children, like John who didn’t hesitate to die for Elena or Mikael who tried to kill all his children but because he didn’t want them to live like this !
I feel like Giuseppe Salvatore and Joshua Parker were really bad fathers (mostly Giuseppe tbh).
Even Bill Forbes and Richard Lockwood looks like better dads than these two !
So, to you which one is THE worst father of TVD ?
(and tbh if we talking about the TVD Universe, in my opinion no one can beat Marcel’s father)
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it’s all in the title but like who do you think is the worst father ?
they were all bad but some had good intentions behind their actions and they loved their children, like John who didn’t hesitate to die for Elena or Mikael who tried to kill all his children but because he didn’t want them to live like this !
I feel like Giuseppe Salvatore and Joshua Parker were really bad fathers (mostly Giuseppe tbh).
Even Bill Forbes and Richard Lockwood looks like better dads than these two !
So, to you which one is THE worst father of TVD ?
(and tbh if we talking about the TVD Universe, in my opinion no one can beat Marcel’s father)
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bonnie was the love of jeremy's life but y'all are not ready to hear it even steven said it
yes the whole cheating thing happened but he still pined bonnie after that like he was devestated in s6 when he thought she died .
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yes the whole cheating thing happened but he still pined bonnie after that like he was devestated in s6 when he thought she died .
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Beyond Team Delena and Team Stelena: The Real Story Behind Stefan and Elena’s Breakup
Until some time ago, I was firmly Team Delena. After rewatching the series many times, I shifted to Team Stelena. Now, with more awareness, I can’t fully take one side or the other, because the situation was much more complex than it may seem at first glance.
The relationship between Stefan and Elena was deeply tied to trauma. Stefan was marked by his dark past and Katherine, while Elena was devastated by the loss of her parents. Their relationship was born from mutual healing: Stefan saw Elena as an anchor to his humanity, and Elena found in him the safety she had lost. He was her hero, she was his redemption. But this balance was fragile and precarious.
The real turning point comes when Stefan leaves with Klaus to save Damon. Elena begins to feel alone, no longer protected, and realizes she must learn to defend herself. The scene where Stefan refuses to help Jeremy is an emotionally powerful moment: that’s when Elena realizes that Stefan is no longer her savior and starts to see him without filters.
So far, this reasoning makes sense, but it would be a mistake to ignore the role Damon actually played in this breakup. Damon definitely had an influence, even though Elena initially rejected his advances. His constant presence and the way he crossed the boundaries of the Stelena relationship by presenting himself as an alternative contributed to the breakdown between Stefan and Elena. He didn’t “steal” Elena, but his closeness certainly played a part.
Another crucial point is the cure and Elena’s transformation into a vampire. It’s true that in season 2 Stefan says he wants Elena to become a vampire so they can be together forever, but when he looks for the cure, he has more than one motivation: he wants to make her happy because he knows she didn’t want to become a vampire, he hopes the cure will bring them closer again, and he wants to free her from the sire bond.
The problem is that, in season 4, Elena only sees the more selfish side of this intention. After the collapse of the idealized image she had of Stefan – which began in season 3 – she interprets his actions negatively. Elena had built an almost perfect image of Stefan, tied to his guilt that made him seem “good” despite everything. When Stefan shuts down and stops showing that guilt, she feels betrayed.
With Damon, on the other hand, Elena had never idealized anything. She knew his worst side from the very beginning, and maybe this allowed their relationship to grow on more solid ground. When Stefan distances himself emotionally, Damon draws closer. Probably with the intention of winning her over – because Damon was never selfless – but also because he saw in her a humanity that awakened his own.
So, in my opinion, the breakup between Stefan and Elena is the result of many factors together:
Stefan’s change in season 3;
the collapse of the idealized image Elena had of him;
Damon’s constant presence and emotional support;
and finally, the sire bond, which didn’t cause love but only accelerated a feeling that was already there.
As the series clearly explains, a sire bond only forms if the person already had human feelings for the vampire before turning. And the fact that, even without her memories, Elena doesn’t go back to Stefan in season 6 confirms that her feelings for Damon weren’t just an illusion or a result of the bond.
In conclusion, the breakup between Stefan and Elena isn’t a simple “Damon stole Elena,” but a much more nuanced story, made of pain, misunderstandings, growth, disappointments, and evolving relationships.
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Until some time ago, I was firmly Team Delena. After rewatching the series many times, I shifted to Team Stelena. Now, with more awareness, I can’t fully take one side or the other, because the situation was much more complex than it may seem at first glance.
The relationship between Stefan and Elena was deeply tied to trauma. Stefan was marked by his dark past and Katherine, while Elena was devastated by the loss of her parents. Their relationship was born from mutual healing: Stefan saw Elena as an anchor to his humanity, and Elena found in him the safety she had lost. He was her hero, she was his redemption. But this balance was fragile and precarious.
The real turning point comes when Stefan leaves with Klaus to save Damon. Elena begins to feel alone, no longer protected, and realizes she must learn to defend herself. The scene where Stefan refuses to help Jeremy is an emotionally powerful moment: that’s when Elena realizes that Stefan is no longer her savior and starts to see him without filters.
So far, this reasoning makes sense, but it would be a mistake to ignore the role Damon actually played in this breakup. Damon definitely had an influence, even though Elena initially rejected his advances. His constant presence and the way he crossed the boundaries of the Stelena relationship by presenting himself as an alternative contributed to the breakdown between Stefan and Elena. He didn’t “steal” Elena, but his closeness certainly played a part.
Another crucial point is the cure and Elena’s transformation into a vampire. It’s true that in season 2 Stefan says he wants Elena to become a vampire so they can be together forever, but when he looks for the cure, he has more than one motivation: he wants to make her happy because he knows she didn’t want to become a vampire, he hopes the cure will bring them closer again, and he wants to free her from the sire bond.
The problem is that, in season 4, Elena only sees the more selfish side of this intention. After the collapse of the idealized image she had of Stefan – which began in season 3 – she interprets his actions negatively. Elena had built an almost perfect image of Stefan, tied to his guilt that made him seem “good” despite everything. When Stefan shuts down and stops showing that guilt, she feels betrayed.
With Damon, on the other hand, Elena had never idealized anything. She knew his worst side from the very beginning, and maybe this allowed their relationship to grow on more solid ground. When Stefan distances himself emotionally, Damon draws closer. Probably with the intention of winning her over – because Damon was never selfless – but also because he saw in her a humanity that awakened his own.
So, in my opinion, the breakup between Stefan and Elena is the result of many factors together:
Stefan’s change in season 3;
the collapse of the idealized image Elena had of him;
Damon’s constant presence and emotional support;
and finally, the sire bond, which didn’t cause love but only accelerated a feeling that was already there.
As the series clearly explains, a sire bond only forms if the person already had human feelings for the vampire before turning. And the fact that, even without her memories, Elena doesn’t go back to Stefan in season 6 confirms that her feelings for Damon weren’t just an illusion or a result of the bond.
In conclusion, the breakup between Stefan and Elena isn’t a simple “Damon stole Elena,” but a much more nuanced story, made of pain, misunderstandings, growth, disappointments, and evolving relationships.
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Just rewatched 5x01 and correct me if I'm wrong
When Elena was in her Silas induced rage episode she got mad at Damon for helping a human Katherine she exclaimed that Katherine tried to kill her repeatedly (instead of the valid point that she'd killed Jeremy) but I only recall Katherine trying to kill Elena at the end of season 4 when Elena forced the cure on her.
I know Katherine was a menace but she never actually tried to kill Elena because Klaus needed her for the sacrifice so what the hell was Elena talking about? Katherine never tried to kill Elena before, just tried to ruin her life by turning Caroline, making sure Tyler triggered his wolf, served them up for Klaus to sacrifice and fed Jeremy to Silas.
Did I miss anymore attempts Katherine made to kill Elena or were the writers just that stupid that they couldn't even keep track of the continuity for the life of them? Dumb question, I know, considering how they butchered the doppelganger lore in season 5 but still.....
Also... how come none of the people Katherine compelled tried to find her when she became human like how Stefan's compulsion caught up with him in season 8? Katherine compelled a slew of people in Mystic Falls that would have thought Elena must have had a split personality or something. Bad writing or what?
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When Elena was in her Silas induced rage episode she got mad at Damon for helping a human Katherine she exclaimed that Katherine tried to kill her repeatedly (instead of the valid point that she'd killed Jeremy) but I only recall Katherine trying to kill Elena at the end of season 4 when Elena forced the cure on her.
I know Katherine was a menace but she never actually tried to kill Elena because Klaus needed her for the sacrifice so what the hell was Elena talking about? Katherine never tried to kill Elena before, just tried to ruin her life by turning Caroline, making sure Tyler triggered his wolf, served them up for Klaus to sacrifice and fed Jeremy to Silas.
Did I miss anymore attempts Katherine made to kill Elena or were the writers just that stupid that they couldn't even keep track of the continuity for the life of them? Dumb question, I know, considering how they butchered the doppelganger lore in season 5 but still.....
Also... how come none of the people Katherine compelled tried to find her when she became human like how Stefan's compulsion caught up with him in season 8? Katherine compelled a slew of people in Mystic Falls that would have thought Elena must have had a split personality or something. Bad writing or what?
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Why did Jeremy treat Anna like that?
I don’t get it, she’s awesome… why did he treat her like less than Vicki?
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I don’t get it, she’s awesome… why did he treat her like less than Vicki?
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Probably been asked but, what if Qetsiyah took the Immortality elixir instead of Silas and Amara?
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Am I the only one that kinda feels bad for this dude?
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Re-watching is just as interesting as watching it for the 1st time
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