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Why did Elijah drink the champagne if he knew Esther was up to something and Elena had lied to him?

If Elijah knew Elena lied to him at the ball and Esther was up to something in the s3, why did he drink the champagne she'd set up? He shouldn't have touched anything. It goes against everything his character is.

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Why didn't Katherine take revenge on those involved in Nadia's death?

Why didn't Katherine slaughter (and possibly torture) Tyler for biting Nadia which ended in her death? And anyone else possibly involved. I haven't watched the episode or scene

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Why didn’t Damon recognize Katherine in S1E22?

In the 22nd episode, Damon kisses Katherine. How can he not realize that it’s not Elena? Surely he shouldn’t be able to hear Katherine’s pulse and notice that?

Or does a vampire have to explicitly focus on that?

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Bonnie

I really loved her as a hunter! She was at the height of her badassery which is saying something. I'm sad it didn't last long. Also omg her outfits were so incredible lol, I wish she kept the look. How did you guys feel about it?

PS. I'm rewatching for the first time in 10+ years so I don't rememeber anything so no future spoilers please lol i'm on season 8 episode 1 (I do remember the Sirens tho, I LOVED them)

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Is it worth watching season 7/8?

I am about halfway through season 7 and am really struggling to continue. I searched up that elena doesn’t even return until the last episode of season 8. Should i just skip until the end?

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Caroline saying goodbye to her mom

She’s a vamp. I would’ve love to see her jumping into her mind and saying good bye in her perfect last day like Damon did with Rose. Caroline deserved better there.

edit: nvm i jumped the gun

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Missed opprutunity in 5×11

To be honest, there isn’t a ton to unpack here, but one thing worth saying is that while Klaus caused immense damage to Katherine, that became more of a catalyst than an excuse for the person she eventually turned into. His actions didn’t justify her choices, but they undeniably shaped her path.



What feels so overlooked is the missed opportunity in the episode where Katherine’s death was on the table. Instead of the Klaroline fan-service moment—which honestly added very little to that storyline—the writers could have given us a scene between Klaus and Katherine. Considering their long and twisted history, it feels strange that they never had a proper confrontation.



The closest we ever got was back in late season two, when Katherine was held captive. Even then, their exchanges were reduced to Klaus barking about the ritual and forcing her to stab herself repeatedly until he returned. The only true moment of depth came when Klaus admitted he had been hunting her for over five centuries—a detail the fandom often tries to dismiss, even though it came straight from his own mouth.



But what about Katherine? In that particular episode, she was on the verge of dying. At that point, there was no reason for her to fear Klaus anymore. She could have spoken freely, finally letting out everything she had held back for centuries. After all, so much of her life—her survival, her paranoia, even her cruelty—was tied to Klaus. To hear her finally say her piece would have been incredibly satisfying, especially since we never got meaningful dialogue between them throughout the series.



If the writers had chosen to kill her off in that episode, it would have made perfect narrative sense to allow her some form of closure with Klaus. Not forgiveness, necessarily, but resolution. It’s one of those “what could have been” storylines that still lingers.


So here’s a question: if Klaus had been included in that episode specifically for a scene with Katherine, what should it have been about? Their complicated history offers so many possibilities, and I can’t help but think that moment could have been one of the most powerful exchanges in the show.

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Stefan “forcing Damon to turn”

Okay so this is definitely a topic VERY frequently discussed, but I don’t know if this particular take has been mentioned here, so I’m gonna do it.

Yes, we all know what the show was trying to shove down our throats, especially in season 8 leading up to the ending where they NEED to justify Damon being the “better man”—that Stefan forced vampirism on Damon, and that Stefan did all these awful things, and that Stefan is the evil monster in Damon’s head. It’s obvious by the way they really emphasise the “awful things” Stefan did in season 8 and how much he “ruined” Damon—that way when Stefan tells Elena that Damon is “the better man”, it felt right.

But I think people need to acknowledge one plot hole that just really agitates me: Damon wanting to die in transition when he supposedly had Emily protect Katherine in the tomb, and knows that she’s safe, and that he can get her out. That’s LITERALLY his whole goal in the beginning of season one. It’s the sole reason he came back to town. He was willing to let Elena die via Anna just to get Kat out. He was driven by his desire to save Katherine from the tomb because he HAD EMILY PROTECT HER.

So riddle me this: why would Damon go to ALL that trouble, just to let himself die? Why would he (completely uncompelled btw) willingly drink Katherine’s blood, train to be a vampire with her (and he was totally fine with killing people with her, even as a human, which we saw in the scene where Damon is bate and Katherine lures victims in before killing them), ensure with Emily Bennett that Katherine would be protected in the tomb, and then just kill himself in transition?

Here’s my personal answer: the show added this retcon so that we would sympathise with Damon and stop seeing him as just being inherently bad. They wanted to victimise him and justify why Stefan is just as awful, and give Stefan a “fatal flaw”. Also, if we’re really ignoring the fact that this retcon made no sense, he says to Stefan in season one that being forced to turn wasn’t why he hates him. It was because Katherine turned Stefan too.

Stefan was 17 years old, and he was ALSO set on dying. His world was falling apart, he would have had all of his memories of being compelled by Kat coming back, and he had to come to terms with not only dying, but also that he was coming back in transition as a creature he never wanted to be. He then went to say goodbye to his father, only to find out that’s who KILLED them, and then is almost killed again. He accidentally harms his father, and his instincts overtake him and lead this newbie vampire with zero training to kill Giuseppe. Now he’s a vampire: newly turned, completely oblivious to every aspect of it, heightened emotions and ALONE.

I don’t want to hear from Damon fanatics who aren’t capable of having a proper considerate conversation where you’re actually willing to consider other perspectives.

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