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In the future, Do you think owning just 1 Bitcoin will be scarce, rare and highly sought after?
There is this recurring thread I notice across social media and blogs time and again of the idea that owning just 1 BTC in the future (like 2030s and onwards) will soon be very scarce, difficult and highly valuable for 99% of people on Earth aside from nations, governments and rich elites.
Assuming the price of BTC does hit at least a million USD by the 2030s, which i believe is the vast majority consensus, I can see where they are coming from.
More and more people are starting to believe Bitcoin is digital gold and could even be the future of money, how do you feel about this sentiment of owning 1 BTC = ultimate goal?
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There is this recurring thread I notice across social media and blogs time and again of the idea that owning just 1 BTC in the future (like 2030s and onwards) will soon be very scarce, difficult and highly valuable for 99% of people on Earth aside from nations, governments and rich elites.
Assuming the price of BTC does hit at least a million USD by the 2030s, which i believe is the vast majority consensus, I can see where they are coming from.
More and more people are starting to believe Bitcoin is digital gold and could even be the future of money, how do you feel about this sentiment of owning 1 BTC = ultimate goal?
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Bitcoin just proved it wants to go higher 🚀
Watching BTC hang strong above $120,000+ is giving me chills, this isn’t a weak move, it’s conviction. Supply is draining, and buyers are stepping in at every dip. With institutions pulling in hard and new entrants stacking quietly, this feels less like a rally and more like the groundwork for a breakout.
I’m not just holding,. I’m stacking more while the noise is low.
Who else here is already adding right now?
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Watching BTC hang strong above $120,000+ is giving me chills, this isn’t a weak move, it’s conviction. Supply is draining, and buyers are stepping in at every dip. With institutions pulling in hard and new entrants stacking quietly, this feels less like a rally and more like the groundwork for a breakout.
I’m not just holding,. I’m stacking more while the noise is low.
Who else here is already adding right now?
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10 years ago I made these threads about buying 85 Bitcoin with my $20k student line of credit instead of going to College and everyone ridiculed me. It worked out for me back then but here’s why I wouldn’t recommend buying btc on credit today.
Here's some threads from 10 years ago about me buying 85 btc on my $20k student line of credit instead of going to college: 1. https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/353bqa/personal\_finance\_hating\_on\_my\_20000\_student\_line/ 2. https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/35cc6y/up\_800\_since\_2\_days\_ago\_since\_rpersonalfinance/ 3. https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/3fwz62/rpersonalfinance\_rwallstreetbets\_and\_most\_of/
Couldn't post all the threads because automod removed my post when I do but you can check my profile and look at my oldest posts to see them. And there was more threads but lots of them got removed by mods and I got "kicked out" from some subs as well, that's how much people were against this back then.
I'm seeing a lot of posts lately from people asking about buying Bitcoin on credit. In 2015 when I just turned 18 I bought 85 Bitcoin @ around 235 each with a $20k student line of credit. Instead of going to college I used that money to buy Bitcoin and when i talked about it back then everyone said I was an idiot for doing it. But it worked out great because bitcoin was still a nascent technology at the time. Along with holding my initial position I doubled down many times and greatly grew my stack.
The problem with buying Bitcoin on credit these days is that the free market alone no longer really determines the price of btc and you are leaving yourself open to being wiped out by a financial entities manipulation. There are lots of government, corporate and central bank games being played with Bitcoin today. In the early bitcoin days things happened organically, it was simple supply and demand that caused the btc price to go up and down. There was also the fact it was a new technology and even if there wasn't demand for btc at some points back then you could still say you believe in the tech and if the tech was solid it would pay off down the line and bitcoin will go mainstream resulting in the btc price exploding.
Well that dream was realized and Bitcoin went mainstream. But the fact that bitcoin is mainstream now also means it has achieved deeper integration with financial institutions and the government. These entities are now manipulating the price of bitcoin like they did with traditional assets. Bitcoin can now have a manufactured downtrend in price caused by these financial institutions. Let's say you buy bitcoin on credit one day, you could be wiped out and lose everything not because of organic sell pressure but because of government/tradfi manipulation pushing the price down. This wasn't a problem back then but it is now. They have enough money to decide when btc pumps and when it dumps because they literally print fiat and unfortunately many in the space today only care about btc going up so they can dump it for fiat. This plays directly into the hands of the financial institutions and central banks. These are the entities that cause recessions, maybe they create another one once you buy on credit and you get wiped out that way. So these days it could be better to buy btc with your own money instead of on credit, so even if there is a downtrend you can still keep your btc and ride it to $1m per coin instead of having to sell it in a downtrend to pay off your credit resulting in you missing gains.
Also 10 years ago when Bitcoin was $200 each the marketcap was 3 billion, today the Bitcoin marketcap is 2.4 trillion. Almost 1000x bigger. Orders of magnitude of more money needs to be put into bitcoin
Here's some threads from 10 years ago about me buying 85 btc on my $20k student line of credit instead of going to college: 1. https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/353bqa/personal\_finance\_hating\_on\_my\_20000\_student\_line/ 2. https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/35cc6y/up\_800\_since\_2\_days\_ago\_since\_rpersonalfinance/ 3. https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/3fwz62/rpersonalfinance\_rwallstreetbets\_and\_most\_of/
Couldn't post all the threads because automod removed my post when I do but you can check my profile and look at my oldest posts to see them. And there was more threads but lots of them got removed by mods and I got "kicked out" from some subs as well, that's how much people were against this back then.
I'm seeing a lot of posts lately from people asking about buying Bitcoin on credit. In 2015 when I just turned 18 I bought 85 Bitcoin @ around 235 each with a $20k student line of credit. Instead of going to college I used that money to buy Bitcoin and when i talked about it back then everyone said I was an idiot for doing it. But it worked out great because bitcoin was still a nascent technology at the time. Along with holding my initial position I doubled down many times and greatly grew my stack.
The problem with buying Bitcoin on credit these days is that the free market alone no longer really determines the price of btc and you are leaving yourself open to being wiped out by a financial entities manipulation. There are lots of government, corporate and central bank games being played with Bitcoin today. In the early bitcoin days things happened organically, it was simple supply and demand that caused the btc price to go up and down. There was also the fact it was a new technology and even if there wasn't demand for btc at some points back then you could still say you believe in the tech and if the tech was solid it would pay off down the line and bitcoin will go mainstream resulting in the btc price exploding.
Well that dream was realized and Bitcoin went mainstream. But the fact that bitcoin is mainstream now also means it has achieved deeper integration with financial institutions and the government. These entities are now manipulating the price of bitcoin like they did with traditional assets. Bitcoin can now have a manufactured downtrend in price caused by these financial institutions. Let's say you buy bitcoin on credit one day, you could be wiped out and lose everything not because of organic sell pressure but because of government/tradfi manipulation pushing the price down. This wasn't a problem back then but it is now. They have enough money to decide when btc pumps and when it dumps because they literally print fiat and unfortunately many in the space today only care about btc going up so they can dump it for fiat. This plays directly into the hands of the financial institutions and central banks. These are the entities that cause recessions, maybe they create another one once you buy on credit and you get wiped out that way. So these days it could be better to buy btc with your own money instead of on credit, so even if there is a downtrend you can still keep your btc and ride it to $1m per coin instead of having to sell it in a downtrend to pay off your credit resulting in you missing gains.
Also 10 years ago when Bitcoin was $200 each the marketcap was 3 billion, today the Bitcoin marketcap is 2.4 trillion. Almost 1000x bigger. Orders of magnitude of more money needs to be put into bitcoin
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today to move it the exact same percentage as back then. in 2015 if btc marketcap went up another 3 billion that would double the price. Today for the price to double another 2.4 Trillion needs to be added to the marketcap. Of course literally $2.4 T dollars don't need to be injected but you get what I'm saying, we're on a bigger scale now and it takes much more to move the price. We aren't seeing frequent 40% daily pumps and weekly 10x increase in price anymore for a reason.
For clarification I still think btc is going to $1m per bitcoin, so of course if you time your credit buys properly you'll come out ahead but do you really think you can time it? The risk of getting caught in a downturn is really big and that could wipe you out.
And sorry if this seemed like a doomer post, I don't want this to be taken as a bearish post because I'm still super bullish on Bitcoin and always have been. I just think the central banks are now greatly manipulating bitcoin and wiping people out so they can get even more of peoples bitcoin and control the supply as much as possible. This is all a big plan by them to manipulate Bitcoin like they do everything else, they don't want people owning btc they want it all for themselves. A lot of these ETFs, btc treasuries and other recent tradfi integrations of bitcoin will be used by the government to control the supply of Bitcoin.
And even though I say the risk of buying credit on bitcoin is huge today and I wouldn't recommend it some part of me still wants to beat this government and tradfi trash that is trying to corrupt Bitcoin lol. I think I can beat them at their own game so I still have some credit btc positions open. I'm happy I was able to use the tradfi system against them back then and use their credit to purchase real currency btc. That's really the moral in all this, going against fiat and doing your best to make Bitcoin prevail.
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For clarification I still think btc is going to $1m per bitcoin, so of course if you time your credit buys properly you'll come out ahead but do you really think you can time it? The risk of getting caught in a downturn is really big and that could wipe you out.
And sorry if this seemed like a doomer post, I don't want this to be taken as a bearish post because I'm still super bullish on Bitcoin and always have been. I just think the central banks are now greatly manipulating bitcoin and wiping people out so they can get even more of peoples bitcoin and control the supply as much as possible. This is all a big plan by them to manipulate Bitcoin like they do everything else, they don't want people owning btc they want it all for themselves. A lot of these ETFs, btc treasuries and other recent tradfi integrations of bitcoin will be used by the government to control the supply of Bitcoin.
And even though I say the risk of buying credit on bitcoin is huge today and I wouldn't recommend it some part of me still wants to beat this government and tradfi trash that is trying to corrupt Bitcoin lol. I think I can beat them at their own game so I still have some credit btc positions open. I'm happy I was able to use the tradfi system against them back then and use their credit to purchase real currency btc. That's really the moral in all this, going against fiat and doing your best to make Bitcoin prevail.
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I remember when Bitcoin was .30 cents
One of the biggest regrets of my life was back in 2010 when I walked into a friends garage and they had server racks everywhere and I was like what the hell is this? He said I'm generating money and I had no idea wtf he was talking about. He pushed me the next few years to invest and sadly my life took a different path but it's crazy to think about having the opportunity to become a billionaire or at the very least a multi- millionaire, and not realizing what was staring me in the face at the time. I wonder what the next big thing is going to be?
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One of the biggest regrets of my life was back in 2010 when I walked into a friends garage and they had server racks everywhere and I was like what the hell is this? He said I'm generating money and I had no idea wtf he was talking about. He pushed me the next few years to invest and sadly my life took a different path but it's crazy to think about having the opportunity to become a billionaire or at the very least a multi- millionaire, and not realizing what was staring me in the face at the time. I wonder what the next big thing is going to be?
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The Final Repricing is coming and there is nothing you can do about it
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Daily Discussion, October 08, 2025
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JACK MALLERS: 🟠 "Bitcoin has outperformed Gold and the S&P 500 every single year. It’s the scarcest thing you can own and it’s available to all of us.”
“All of us have a ticket out.”
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“All of us have a ticket out.”
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