lately). Those uncertainties are more easily answered with another season of data, which is exactly what makes an extension now so tricky.
Based on a model I’m working on, here is Ivey’s current projection (assuming 8% raises YoY):
https://preview.redd.it/ekgodecfiqqf1.png?width=587&format=png&auto=webp&s=6688dbd57b7e8f288831707860cbb908798dd2f4
Just on my gut test, I think this probably underrates Ivey. Also based on my gut test, I think Ivey thinks this probably underrates Ivey. After all, Jalen Green is set to earn 21.72% of the Cap, Jalen Suggs 22.63% of the Cap, and Devin Vassell earned 20.88% of the Cap in year 1 of his extension. Those are probably the names that Ivey is circling as comps.
But there’s a lot of uncertainty! My gut isn’t so sure that the Pistons think this underrates Ivey right now. His first two seasons were relatively underwhelming, and he’s an athletic player coming off a major injury.
Bottom Line: I predict no extension and each side will bet on another season of data leading them to the right place.
Jalen Duren
Jalen Duren took a leap in the last two-thirds of year 3 and into the playoffs. He was really good. There’s a similar sample size question to Jaden Ivey, though.
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Questions remain about Duren’s defensive ceiling and how well he fits alongside Pistons other than Cade Cunningham. More broadly, the league still wrestles with how much to pay non-shooting bigs (and non-shooting players more generally). It’s tough to keep more than one on the floor at a time, which makes investing heavily in one a tricky proposition. In my opinion, the biggest Duren question marks are (1) his fit with Ausar Thompson — with Detroit likely preparing to pay him next summer, two non-shooters on the floor is a tough puzzle — and (2) whether his production is sustainable.
Based on a model I’m working on, here is Duren’s current projection (assuming 8% raises YoY):
https://preview.redd.it/biqpo75iiqqf1.png?width=591&format=png&auto=webp&s=795acea9aeafd253a40ab54f0bf4ebb5bf910e0f
The total value and AAV here feel about right — maybe a bit high. I wouldn’t be surprised if Detroit pushes for a flatter structure or a team option to preserve future flexibility.
Bottom line: Duren is probably good enough, young enough, and trending enough in the right direction for the Pistons to lock him in now.
Thinking About the Summer of 2026
If we pencil in somewhere around $50 million total in 2026-27 salary for Ivey and Duren, they’ll still project with quite a bit of flexibility below the Tax Level with two open roster spots.
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This room could be used on re-signing Tobias Harris, using the Mid-Level, or acquiring a bigger salary via trade.
There’s also a potential cap space plan worth mentioning. My general rule is that any team can find cap space if they really want to (not that it always makes sense to want to). Here’s one way they could do this:
1. Don’t extend Duren if his projected Y1 cap hit exceeds his current cap hold of $19,449,432. This would allow them to keep his hold on the books (and his Bird Rights) and make other transactions with the space available.
2. Extend Ivey at a figure somewhere below his $30,321,489 cap hold. Let’s ballpark it at $22.5 million for now.
3. Decline Marcus Sasser’s 2026-27 team option.
4. In the summer, waive Duncan Robinson (just $2,000,000 guaranteed next season).
5. Renounce Tobias Harris’ $39,951,219 cap hold (and the rest of the cap holds leftover on their books).
6. Trade Caris LeVert into another team’s MLE.
7. Trade Paul Reed into another team’s TPE.
That combination nets roughly $31 million in Cap Space to use before circling back to Duren. It’s probably not the optimal route, but it is worth flagging as a contingency if things go sideways. You never know.
# (3) The Big Swing Decision
As it
Based on a model I’m working on, here is Ivey’s current projection (assuming 8% raises YoY):
https://preview.redd.it/ekgodecfiqqf1.png?width=587&format=png&auto=webp&s=6688dbd57b7e8f288831707860cbb908798dd2f4
Just on my gut test, I think this probably underrates Ivey. Also based on my gut test, I think Ivey thinks this probably underrates Ivey. After all, Jalen Green is set to earn 21.72% of the Cap, Jalen Suggs 22.63% of the Cap, and Devin Vassell earned 20.88% of the Cap in year 1 of his extension. Those are probably the names that Ivey is circling as comps.
But there’s a lot of uncertainty! My gut isn’t so sure that the Pistons think this underrates Ivey right now. His first two seasons were relatively underwhelming, and he’s an athletic player coming off a major injury.
Bottom Line: I predict no extension and each side will bet on another season of data leading them to the right place.
Jalen Duren
Jalen Duren took a leap in the last two-thirds of year 3 and into the playoffs. He was really good. There’s a similar sample size question to Jaden Ivey, though.
https://preview.redd.it/dhddxuygiqqf1.png?width=1104&format=png&auto=webp&s=c13ebf543fbf2897cd642d2b28a1d14029175393
Questions remain about Duren’s defensive ceiling and how well he fits alongside Pistons other than Cade Cunningham. More broadly, the league still wrestles with how much to pay non-shooting bigs (and non-shooting players more generally). It’s tough to keep more than one on the floor at a time, which makes investing heavily in one a tricky proposition. In my opinion, the biggest Duren question marks are (1) his fit with Ausar Thompson — with Detroit likely preparing to pay him next summer, two non-shooters on the floor is a tough puzzle — and (2) whether his production is sustainable.
Based on a model I’m working on, here is Duren’s current projection (assuming 8% raises YoY):
https://preview.redd.it/biqpo75iiqqf1.png?width=591&format=png&auto=webp&s=795acea9aeafd253a40ab54f0bf4ebb5bf910e0f
The total value and AAV here feel about right — maybe a bit high. I wouldn’t be surprised if Detroit pushes for a flatter structure or a team option to preserve future flexibility.
Bottom line: Duren is probably good enough, young enough, and trending enough in the right direction for the Pistons to lock him in now.
Thinking About the Summer of 2026
If we pencil in somewhere around $50 million total in 2026-27 salary for Ivey and Duren, they’ll still project with quite a bit of flexibility below the Tax Level with two open roster spots.
https://preview.redd.it/ki2bwazkiqqf1.png?width=630&format=png&auto=webp&s=0eade0f4b8795dea42a3216d8135213219f31b12
This room could be used on re-signing Tobias Harris, using the Mid-Level, or acquiring a bigger salary via trade.
There’s also a potential cap space plan worth mentioning. My general rule is that any team can find cap space if they really want to (not that it always makes sense to want to). Here’s one way they could do this:
1. Don’t extend Duren if his projected Y1 cap hit exceeds his current cap hold of $19,449,432. This would allow them to keep his hold on the books (and his Bird Rights) and make other transactions with the space available.
2. Extend Ivey at a figure somewhere below his $30,321,489 cap hold. Let’s ballpark it at $22.5 million for now.
3. Decline Marcus Sasser’s 2026-27 team option.
4. In the summer, waive Duncan Robinson (just $2,000,000 guaranteed next season).
5. Renounce Tobias Harris’ $39,951,219 cap hold (and the rest of the cap holds leftover on their books).
6. Trade Caris LeVert into another team’s MLE.
7. Trade Paul Reed into another team’s TPE.
That combination nets roughly $31 million in Cap Space to use before circling back to Duren. It’s probably not the optimal route, but it is worth flagging as a contingency if things go sideways. You never know.
# (3) The Big Swing Decision
As it
stands, Detroit projects to have roughly $21 million in room below the Tax Level. They also hold a mix of mid-sized contracts, giving them the flexibility to salary-match nearly any incoming salary:
https://preview.redd.it/cm4c0y2oiqqf1.png?width=1270&format=png&auto=webp&s=4322638c1e33327985d1e0383307a662acba9712
This is a familiar spot for Detroit: a window to chase a big contract before rookie extensions start to hit. With moveable mid-sized deals and roughly $20 million of cushion below the Tax (depending on Ivey and Duren’s numbers), the Pistons are positioned to swing for a higher-salaried player this season. On top of that, they have enough draft capital flexibility to build almost any pick package they’d need:
https://preview.redd.it/lklo31mqiqqf1.png?width=1096&format=png&auto=webp&s=8c299179e57ca10754a53cb65966be3af446a842
It’s probably a bit too early to consider names since the trade market doesn’t fully form until the period between December 15 and the deadline. The Pistons also probably want a better idea of what they have this season before making any move. But for now, it’s worth noting that the Pistons have as much salary-matching flexibility as any team in the league and all of their draft picks for the next 7 years.
If a big name hits the trade market this season, Detroit will have a seat at the table.
# Honorable Mentions (because I can’t help myself):
Marcus Sasser Team Option. The Pistons have until October 31 to decide on Marcus Sasser’s $5.2 million 2026-27 team option, and it’s not a straightforward call. Sasser showed flashes as a tough shot-maker and efficient pull-up shooter, but his lack of playmaking has limited his fit as a true backup point guard. I imagine that Detroit would like to see him evolve into more of a table-setter, add off-ball movement to maximize his shooting, and regain some of the defensive edge he had in college. At just 24 years old, there’s still upside, but the option decision forces the Pistons to weigh patience in his development against the roster and financial flexibility they’ll need moving forward.
Optimizing Tax Room. Detroit has room to maneuver under the Tax, with roughly $20 million in space and a $14.1 million trade exception from the Schröder sign-and-trade. That combination gives them the flexibility to absorb contracts without sending money back and to shop in the mid-level salary range for upgrades. Any player earning below that threshold could become a realistic midseason target, making Detroit one of the better-positioned teams to optimize its room.
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This is a familiar spot for Detroit: a window to chase a big contract before rookie extensions start to hit. With moveable mid-sized deals and roughly $20 million of cushion below the Tax (depending on Ivey and Duren’s numbers), the Pistons are positioned to swing for a higher-salaried player this season. On top of that, they have enough draft capital flexibility to build almost any pick package they’d need:
https://preview.redd.it/lklo31mqiqqf1.png?width=1096&format=png&auto=webp&s=8c299179e57ca10754a53cb65966be3af446a842
It’s probably a bit too early to consider names since the trade market doesn’t fully form until the period between December 15 and the deadline. The Pistons also probably want a better idea of what they have this season before making any move. But for now, it’s worth noting that the Pistons have as much salary-matching flexibility as any team in the league and all of their draft picks for the next 7 years.
If a big name hits the trade market this season, Detroit will have a seat at the table.
# Honorable Mentions (because I can’t help myself):
Marcus Sasser Team Option. The Pistons have until October 31 to decide on Marcus Sasser’s $5.2 million 2026-27 team option, and it’s not a straightforward call. Sasser showed flashes as a tough shot-maker and efficient pull-up shooter, but his lack of playmaking has limited his fit as a true backup point guard. I imagine that Detroit would like to see him evolve into more of a table-setter, add off-ball movement to maximize his shooting, and regain some of the defensive edge he had in college. At just 24 years old, there’s still upside, but the option decision forces the Pistons to weigh patience in his development against the roster and financial flexibility they’ll need moving forward.
Optimizing Tax Room. Detroit has room to maneuver under the Tax, with roughly $20 million in space and a $14.1 million trade exception from the Schröder sign-and-trade. That combination gives them the flexibility to absorb contracts without sending money back and to shop in the mid-level salary range for upgrades. Any player earning below that threshold could become a realistic midseason target, making Detroit one of the better-positioned teams to optimize its room.
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Who are you most excited about this year. Who do you have the most stock in?
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So who replaces Jaden Ivey?
Seems like most Pistons fans feel as if he wont improve and are ready to move on from him already, so if this dream comes true who will be our starting 2 guard? Do we roll with a Cade/Sasser backcourt 🫣 and to be clear im an Ivey believer and cant wait for him to cement his status as our clear #2 this season but im in the minority 🤷🏿♂️
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Seems like most Pistons fans feel as if he wont improve and are ready to move on from him already, so if this dream comes true who will be our starting 2 guard? Do we roll with a Cade/Sasser backcourt 🫣 and to be clear im an Ivey believer and cant wait for him to cement his status as our clear #2 this season but im in the minority 🤷🏿♂️
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Not sure how long I’ve been looking for one but it’s impossible to find horse-era Ben jerseys online
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Isiah takes over & scores 26 in the 2nd half vs. Chicago
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Isiah Thomas Takes Over & Scores 26 Points Second Half Points vs. Bulls (1992)
November 11, 1992 - After sustaining a facial laceration in the first half that required four stitches, Isiah Thomas returned with a vengeance, scoring 26 second half points and nearly scoring an early-season upset of the two-time defending champion Chicago…
Durand “Speedy” Walker named Motor City Cruise President of Basketball Operations
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DURAND “SPEEDY” WALKER NAMED MOTOR CITY CRUISE PRESIDENT OF BASKETBALL OPERATIONS - Motor City Cruise
DETROIT – The Motor City Cruise, NBA G League affiliate of the Detroit Pistons, announced today that Durand “Speedy” Walker has been named the President of Basketball Operations. Walker will oversee General Manager Max Unger and all Cruise basketball operations…
Ausar Thompson All 107 Dunks Full Highlights (2024-2025 Season Dunk-ilation)
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Shadow clone jutsu allows the user to create one or more copies of themselves. The user's chakra is evenly divided between themselves and their clones: creating one clone will give it half the user's chakra, creating two clones will give each a third of the…
Desperate rockets fan here
Detroit vs Houston is my wish finals matchup btw. All I’m asking is, what would be a realistic trade offer for Marcus Sasser? Would Reed with a pick be an insult? Maybe you see the value in Tari Eason, and that’s fine? What do you want fr? Considering you have leverage, I think picks have to be involved anyways.
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Detroit vs Houston is my wish finals matchup btw. All I’m asking is, what would be a realistic trade offer for Marcus Sasser? Would Reed with a pick be an insult? Maybe you see the value in Tari Eason, and that’s fine? What do you want fr? Considering you have leverage, I think picks have to be involved anyways.
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Stat: Cade has almost sixtupled his career WinShares last season!
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The Detroit Pistons had three players crack ESPN Top 100 Players List
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Any chance we bring back the horse jerseys in alternate colorways as throwbacks this year?
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How are we feeling about Jalen Duren’s growth last year (especially defensively) and how that will continue into this year. Predict his year for me. Hoping he takes a leap
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How are we feeling about Jalen Duren’s growth last year (especially defensively) and how that will continue into this year. Predict his year for me. Hoping he takes a leap
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