Which Servants canonically never killed (or seriously harmed) anyone before becoming a Heroic Spirit?
Had a discussion with a friend over a fanservant of hers (hello Maru), but since there was a lot of characters in FGO I'm quite unfamiliar with, I wanted to get input from the community.
For all intents and purposes, when doing the list, I'm counting the deaths inflicted by a character over their lifetime and not at the part of their life they're supposed to be at (so, for instance, Saber Lily does not make it to the list since she killed people later in life). Being indirectly responsible for someone else death (such as giving the order to kill someone but not doing it yourself, or starting a war even if you do not partake in it) also removes you from the list.
So far, the list comprises of:
* The writers (Hans, Shakespeare, Nagiko, Murasaki, Bakin)
* Martha
* Tesla, Edison, and Helena
Anyone else I'm missing on?
# EDIT1:
Thank you everyone for your feedback,
I think a few more details regarding the rules are in order:
First, Servants comprised of multiple people/legends must not have any bodycount registered in all of their separate origins. By that metric, Edison does not make it to the list given he's part "Every US President ever".
Second, Lovecraftian God Foreigners are in a grey area, since Hokusai nor Abigail probably never killed anyone themselves, but Chtulu and Yog-Sothoth most probably did (or not, my lovecraftian knowledge is very barebone, feel free to correct me on this).
Third, this one is a hard call to make, but I decided suicide or self-harm wouldn't count, so Goghie could make it to the list (if it wasn't for Clytie being technically responsible for someone else's death).
Fourth, killing non-human entities such as animals, demons, or gods, does not exclude one from the list, unless said entity demonstrated genuine humane qualities at the time (exemple: some faes in LB6 demonstrated they could be humane, like Mike, or the Autumn Wood faes, and so that excludes the entire LB6 cast outside of Castoria)
Fifth, characters who are not from history but a modified version of an existing one (i.e. Jalter) count as being the same as the original
here's the updated list:
* The writers (Hans, Shakespeare, Nagiko, Murasaki, Bakin)
* Tesla
* Helena
* Da Vinci
* Mary Anning
* Mata Hari
* Voyager
* Nursery Rhyme
* Miss Crane
* Anastasia
* Nightingale
* Marie Antoinette (I was under some impression she had a role in missing people cases during the Revolution, but couldn't find concrete source on it, so for now, she's innocent until proven otherwise)
* Emiya (he technically did not kill people before becoming a Servant)
* Scheherazade
* Xu Fu
* Sanzang
* Buddha
* Daikokuten
* Castoria
Honorable mentions go to:
* Jeanne d'Arc (I've heard contradicting reports about the thing, so I'm assuming she did kill on the assumption she was present on battlefields multiple times)
* Jinako (she's still >!the one who set up the trap!< in CCC, so it counts)
* Martha (didn't know about her killing pirates, my assumption was that she asked Jesus to resurrect Lazarus, which would have made her the only character with a negative body count on the list)
* Jing Ke (I know he failed his attempt, but I'm still wondering if there wasn't any collateral from it)
* Angra Manyu (I have a hard understanding whenever he's actually the zarasustran evil god or just some nobody everyone pretends to be said god)
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Had a discussion with a friend over a fanservant of hers (hello Maru), but since there was a lot of characters in FGO I'm quite unfamiliar with, I wanted to get input from the community.
For all intents and purposes, when doing the list, I'm counting the deaths inflicted by a character over their lifetime and not at the part of their life they're supposed to be at (so, for instance, Saber Lily does not make it to the list since she killed people later in life). Being indirectly responsible for someone else death (such as giving the order to kill someone but not doing it yourself, or starting a war even if you do not partake in it) also removes you from the list.
So far, the list comprises of:
* The writers (Hans, Shakespeare, Nagiko, Murasaki, Bakin)
* Martha
* Tesla, Edison, and Helena
Anyone else I'm missing on?
# EDIT1:
Thank you everyone for your feedback,
I think a few more details regarding the rules are in order:
First, Servants comprised of multiple people/legends must not have any bodycount registered in all of their separate origins. By that metric, Edison does not make it to the list given he's part "Every US President ever".
Second, Lovecraftian God Foreigners are in a grey area, since Hokusai nor Abigail probably never killed anyone themselves, but Chtulu and Yog-Sothoth most probably did (or not, my lovecraftian knowledge is very barebone, feel free to correct me on this).
Third, this one is a hard call to make, but I decided suicide or self-harm wouldn't count, so Goghie could make it to the list (if it wasn't for Clytie being technically responsible for someone else's death).
Fourth, killing non-human entities such as animals, demons, or gods, does not exclude one from the list, unless said entity demonstrated genuine humane qualities at the time (exemple: some faes in LB6 demonstrated they could be humane, like Mike, or the Autumn Wood faes, and so that excludes the entire LB6 cast outside of Castoria)
Fifth, characters who are not from history but a modified version of an existing one (i.e. Jalter) count as being the same as the original
here's the updated list:
* The writers (Hans, Shakespeare, Nagiko, Murasaki, Bakin)
* Tesla
* Helena
* Da Vinci
* Mary Anning
* Mata Hari
* Voyager
* Nursery Rhyme
* Miss Crane
* Anastasia
* Nightingale
* Marie Antoinette (I was under some impression she had a role in missing people cases during the Revolution, but couldn't find concrete source on it, so for now, she's innocent until proven otherwise)
* Emiya (he technically did not kill people before becoming a Servant)
* Scheherazade
* Xu Fu
* Sanzang
* Buddha
* Daikokuten
* Castoria
Honorable mentions go to:
* Jeanne d'Arc (I've heard contradicting reports about the thing, so I'm assuming she did kill on the assumption she was present on battlefields multiple times)
* Jinako (she's still >!the one who set up the trap!< in CCC, so it counts)
* Martha (didn't know about her killing pirates, my assumption was that she asked Jesus to resurrect Lazarus, which would have made her the only character with a negative body count on the list)
* Jing Ke (I know he failed his attempt, but I'm still wondering if there wasn't any collateral from it)
* Angra Manyu (I have a hard understanding whenever he's actually the zarasustran evil god or just some nobody everyone pretends to be said god)
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[NA Event] Grail Front - Castle of Shining Dawn, Castle of Shadowed Dusk ~ Day 13
[News Page](https://fate-go.us/news/?category=NEWS&article=%2Fiframe%2F2025%2F1012_grail_front%2F)
[Roll Thread](https://redd.it/1o74izm)
[Official Grail Front Guide](https://webview.fate-go.us/iframe/2024/0519_holy_grail_front_howto/)
Event Period: 15 October 2025, 1AM PDT - 4 November 2025, 7:59PM PDT
Participation Requirements: Lostbelt 1 clear
# Links
* [Fandom Wiki](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Grail_Front_~White_Castle_by_Day,_Black_Castle_by_Night~)
* [AppMedia (JP)](https://appmedia.jp/fategrandorder/75614401)
* [Gamepress Guide](https://grandorder.gamepress.gg/p/grail-front-castle-of-dawn-and-dusk-walkthrough)
* [Support List Setup](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/1o67mgr/grail_front_castle_of_shining_dawn_castle_of/#lightbox)
# Guide
* You have a party cost similar to standard parties.
* It is generally better to use higher rarity servants and no CE as oppoesd to spreading out cost across multiple lower rarity servants.
* If you surround an enemy with 2 of your units you can have multiple attack phases. This also goes for the enemy.
* There are some tiles on the board that have temporary and permanent buffs. The floating bubbles are limited time buffs and stay with that servant, the ones on the tile only work if your servant is on that tile.
* Buffs that last 1 turn last for "2 phases". This is noteworthy for defensive buffs. For example, if the enemy attacks you and you use a 1 turn evade during your counterattack, you have used 1 phase. If you attack them with that servant on your turn, your attack is the 2nd phase and the evade will wear off on the enemy's counterattack.
* Skill cooldowns go down 1 per battle and 1 per overall turn. You can spam end turn to get your servant's CDs back up as well as mystic code.
* The default MC is the best one due to having heal and evade.
* There are treasure chests on the map. You can only get the rewards if you beat the map, you cannot gather and then retreat. If you beat the map you can retry and any uncollected chests will be there.
* You have to do both day and night maps if you want all the treasure chests, they are independent for day and night.
* The best attackers are the best soloers: Herc, QSH, Kama, Cu Lancer, Cu Alter, Barghest, Enkidu are all relevant units. Draco is also noteworthy due to her class typing.
* There are a few changes to this Grail Front compared to others:
* The more servants in your party, the more attack your servants will get. This is to offset lower rarity having lower base stats than higher rarity; it's not worth it to prioritize low rarity servants though.
* The day/night maps have different effects. Day grants stargen, night grants defense up and party HP recovery up.
* There are locations on the board you can attack that will create new pathways.
* There are some tiles that respawn enemy units. You can put a unit on it to stop the spawning.
* Some maps you don't win by beating all enemy servants or hitting the enemy master. For example, you may have to get your Master unit to an escape tile to win.
* You can CS revive grail front maps now. This doesn't reset treasure chest acquisition from the map. You and your units will start from their initial spots.
# FAQ
* This is a natural AP event. You do not need to spend apples.
* Event progression: Do event story -> do grail front maps to unlock more event story -> farm free quests with nat AP (usually the newest one). Repeat until epilogue, then farm 90+ or 90++ to shop clear.
* Daytime is generally easier. However you have to do both day and night if you want all the treasure chests.
* The event CE is powermod for both free quests (100% non-MLB, 200% MLB) and grail fronts (15% non-MLB, 30% MLB). You should try to grab it before doing the harder grail front maps and 90/90++ nodes.
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[News Page](https://fate-go.us/news/?category=NEWS&article=%2Fiframe%2F2025%2F1012_grail_front%2F)
[Roll Thread](https://redd.it/1o74izm)
[Official Grail Front Guide](https://webview.fate-go.us/iframe/2024/0519_holy_grail_front_howto/)
Event Period: 15 October 2025, 1AM PDT - 4 November 2025, 7:59PM PDT
Participation Requirements: Lostbelt 1 clear
# Links
* [Fandom Wiki](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Grail_Front_~White_Castle_by_Day,_Black_Castle_by_Night~)
* [AppMedia (JP)](https://appmedia.jp/fategrandorder/75614401)
* [Gamepress Guide](https://grandorder.gamepress.gg/p/grail-front-castle-of-dawn-and-dusk-walkthrough)
* [Support List Setup](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/1o67mgr/grail_front_castle_of_shining_dawn_castle_of/#lightbox)
# Guide
* You have a party cost similar to standard parties.
* It is generally better to use higher rarity servants and no CE as oppoesd to spreading out cost across multiple lower rarity servants.
* If you surround an enemy with 2 of your units you can have multiple attack phases. This also goes for the enemy.
* There are some tiles on the board that have temporary and permanent buffs. The floating bubbles are limited time buffs and stay with that servant, the ones on the tile only work if your servant is on that tile.
* Buffs that last 1 turn last for "2 phases". This is noteworthy for defensive buffs. For example, if the enemy attacks you and you use a 1 turn evade during your counterattack, you have used 1 phase. If you attack them with that servant on your turn, your attack is the 2nd phase and the evade will wear off on the enemy's counterattack.
* Skill cooldowns go down 1 per battle and 1 per overall turn. You can spam end turn to get your servant's CDs back up as well as mystic code.
* The default MC is the best one due to having heal and evade.
* There are treasure chests on the map. You can only get the rewards if you beat the map, you cannot gather and then retreat. If you beat the map you can retry and any uncollected chests will be there.
* You have to do both day and night maps if you want all the treasure chests, they are independent for day and night.
* The best attackers are the best soloers: Herc, QSH, Kama, Cu Lancer, Cu Alter, Barghest, Enkidu are all relevant units. Draco is also noteworthy due to her class typing.
* There are a few changes to this Grail Front compared to others:
* The more servants in your party, the more attack your servants will get. This is to offset lower rarity having lower base stats than higher rarity; it's not worth it to prioritize low rarity servants though.
* The day/night maps have different effects. Day grants stargen, night grants defense up and party HP recovery up.
* There are locations on the board you can attack that will create new pathways.
* There are some tiles that respawn enemy units. You can put a unit on it to stop the spawning.
* Some maps you don't win by beating all enemy servants or hitting the enemy master. For example, you may have to get your Master unit to an escape tile to win.
* You can CS revive grail front maps now. This doesn't reset treasure chest acquisition from the map. You and your units will start from their initial spots.
# FAQ
* This is a natural AP event. You do not need to spend apples.
* Event progression: Do event story -> do grail front maps to unlock more event story -> farm free quests with nat AP (usually the newest one). Repeat until epilogue, then farm 90+ or 90++ to shop clear.
* Daytime is generally easier. However you have to do both day and night if you want all the treasure chests.
* The event CE is powermod for both free quests (100% non-MLB, 200% MLB) and grail fronts (15% non-MLB, 30% MLB). You should try to grab it before doing the harder grail front maps and 90/90++ nodes.
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