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Matt
Admittedly, this is my first time watching the show and I’m on season 4. Am I tripping or is Matt the best character? I know people like to dog on him because he’s kind of boring and he shouldn’t have survived this long, but he’s ultimately very selfless, he has no reason to be wrapped up with vampires and yet he is because he loves his friends! Him letting Elena feed from him is what really made me realize he’s a really good friend. Rare I say Matt is, at this point, my favorite character?
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Admittedly, this is my first time watching the show and I’m on season 4. Am I tripping or is Matt the best character? I know people like to dog on him because he’s kind of boring and he shouldn’t have survived this long, but he’s ultimately very selfless, he has no reason to be wrapped up with vampires and yet he is because he loves his friends! Him letting Elena feed from him is what really made me realize he’s a really good friend. Rare I say Matt is, at this point, my favorite character?
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do witches age?
are they immortal or not this is prob a stupid ask but i cant remember for the life of me probably not but just had a random thought they get old and die like any old normal person right? i was thinking >!if i shipped damon and bonnie together i loved them in the books and kinda love their friend enemy thing they got going on in the later seasons would she stay alive or die since damon is immortal and can basically live forever.!<
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are they immortal or not this is prob a stupid ask but i cant remember for the life of me probably not but just had a random thought they get old and die like any old normal person right? i was thinking >!if i shipped damon and bonnie together i loved them in the books and kinda love their friend enemy thing they got going on in the later seasons would she stay alive or die since damon is immortal and can basically live forever.!<
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Hotels In Covington?
First off apologies if this is the completely wrong subreddit to be posting this in. My girlfriend is a big fan of TVD and is wanting to go to Covington around Halloween time. I myself have never watched an episode, I’ve only seen clips every now and then. She talks a lot about the square… I know I could do my own research but I was wondering if there was a local or anybody else who’s been there that knows some great hotels on the Square (if that exists) or some that are very close to somewhere related to the show that’d be perfect. Also I know this would be easier if I just asked her but I want it to be a surprise, I greatly appreciate any help!
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First off apologies if this is the completely wrong subreddit to be posting this in. My girlfriend is a big fan of TVD and is wanting to go to Covington around Halloween time. I myself have never watched an episode, I’ve only seen clips every now and then. She talks a lot about the square… I know I could do my own research but I was wondering if there was a local or anybody else who’s been there that knows some great hotels on the Square (if that exists) or some that are very close to somewhere related to the show that’d be perfect. Also I know this would be easier if I just asked her but I want it to be a surprise, I greatly appreciate any help!
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What’s your favourite scene?
Will be interesting to see people’s answers. It’s tough to choose one and it probably changes from time to time but right now, I’d say the ferris wheel scene in Season 2 was my favourite between Stefan and Elena. Romantic.
Other good shouts:
1)I’m a stefan guy but anytime damon used to beat him up was funny. I particularly liked the scene where Stefan says Aww be careful brother, your humanity is showing and Damon then proceeds to give him a good beating. Anyone with older siblings knows the feeling.
2)Katherine and Stefan in what was supposed to be her final moments in Season 5. Stefan was the only one who could get her to fully open up and was willing to give her a happy ending
3)Damon and Elena prior to getting together was good to watch.
Scene When Damon was dying from the werewolf bite
Damons one liners in season 1/2 were funny. When Damon turns up to her house and says you call, I turn up, I’m easy like that. He then says ‘No, Elena. I will not go to your bedroom’ in the earshot of Jeremy.
4)Stefan and Elena breakup in Season 2. Tearjerker
I know I’m missing so many scenes. Hard to remember all. the above is what currently
sticks out in my mind.
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Will be interesting to see people’s answers. It’s tough to choose one and it probably changes from time to time but right now, I’d say the ferris wheel scene in Season 2 was my favourite between Stefan and Elena. Romantic.
Other good shouts:
1)I’m a stefan guy but anytime damon used to beat him up was funny. I particularly liked the scene where Stefan says Aww be careful brother, your humanity is showing and Damon then proceeds to give him a good beating. Anyone with older siblings knows the feeling.
2)Katherine and Stefan in what was supposed to be her final moments in Season 5. Stefan was the only one who could get her to fully open up and was willing to give her a happy ending
3)Damon and Elena prior to getting together was good to watch.
Scene When Damon was dying from the werewolf bite
Damons one liners in season 1/2 were funny. When Damon turns up to her house and says you call, I turn up, I’m easy like that. He then says ‘No, Elena. I will not go to your bedroom’ in the earshot of Jeremy.
4)Stefan and Elena breakup in Season 2. Tearjerker
I know I’m missing so many scenes. Hard to remember all. the above is what currently
sticks out in my mind.
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Why Damon is an angel compared to Klaus and Katherine .
I'm absolutely tired of posts and comments claiming Damon is worse than Katherine and Klaus. It's one of the most illogical and unfounded judgments in the fandom. This post doesn't excuse Damon's actions, but I want to explain why considering him the worst of the trio is hypocritical and an unreasonable approach to the scale of evil in the show.
1. The Scale of the Atrocities, Age, and Time of Their Commission
Yes, Damon, as a 178-year-old vampire, has committed many terrible things and killed many people. But his "list" pales in comparison to his "peers."
Katherine (500+ years):
Unlike Damon, Katherine never stopped. Her comments about a "long list of victims" in season two, coupled with over 500 years of selfish existence, speak for themselves. While the exact number of victims is unknown, given her cruel and selfish behavior, as well as over 500 years of experience, it's safe to say she has a very high body count, more than Damon.
She betrayed everyone: Stefan and Damon, her friend Pearl, and the vampires from the tomb (whom she herself had turned) to save her own skin.
But here's the worst part: In Season 4, we learn that Katherine has made an entire town adore her, literally making them her slaves. This is worse than anything Damon has done in all the seasons.
Klaus (1,000+ years):
He's nothing to write home about. He's one of the first vampires, renowned for being the most brutal in history.
The Originals depicts his crimes in detail. Marcel's trial at the end of Season 3 only scratched the surface of his victims and the monstrous deeds he's committed over the course of a millennium.
Damon's actions were no different from those of a typical vampire villain at the beginning of the series. Klaus and Katherine's atrocities were systemic, global, and continued for centuries.
2. Treatment of loved ones and the depth of pain inflicted
We don't deny that Damon hurt Stefan (killing Lexi, trying to ruin his life) and Elena (killing Jeremy, being cruel to Caroline, killing Aaron). But this pales in comparison to what Klaus and Katherine did.
Klaus:
He systematically deprived his brothers and sister of happiness: stabbing them with daggers, putting them to sleep for years. He killed almost all of Rebekah's lovers.
He disregarded the feelings of even his most loyal brother, Elijah (the Katherine affair, the death of Celeste). The pain Klaus inflicted on his family was a relentless cycle that lasted for 1,000 years.
Even in his "path to redemption," Klaus continued to hurt his family, as shown in The Originals.
Katherine:
Her "loved ones" are just tools. She used and manipulated Stefan and Damon when they were human. She framed Pearl.
The Biggest Betrayal: In Season 5, Katherine betrayed her daughter, Nadia. She had a chance to find happiness and a family, but she was only concerned with revenge against Elena and her obsession with Stefan. This shows that even her maternal instinct couldn't outweigh her selfishness.
3. The Question of Treating Damon as a Villain
The argument that Damon "wasn't treated as a villain" is the most illogical:
In Season 1, when he was a pure villain, EVERYONE treated him with contempt. They worked with him only when necessary, always expressing hostility.
Over time, the characters came to terms with his behavior because they began to see him trying to improve, even though he remained "himself."
This isn't an "excuse" for the villain, but an acknowledgement of the character's evolution. Damon was forgiven because he changed. Katherine and Klaus didn't receive such forgiveness on The Vampire Diaries because their villainy was more fundamental and long-lasting.
Katherine only helped when it suited her. Klaus was generally a lesser evil compared to the greater threats that emerged afterward: his mother Esther, the evil Alaric, and Silas.
Bottom Line:
As a villain, Damon was never on Katherine's level, much less Klaus's.
You can't equate 178 years of impulsive cruelty (with periods of kindness) with 500 years of
I'm absolutely tired of posts and comments claiming Damon is worse than Katherine and Klaus. It's one of the most illogical and unfounded judgments in the fandom. This post doesn't excuse Damon's actions, but I want to explain why considering him the worst of the trio is hypocritical and an unreasonable approach to the scale of evil in the show.
1. The Scale of the Atrocities, Age, and Time of Their Commission
Yes, Damon, as a 178-year-old vampire, has committed many terrible things and killed many people. But his "list" pales in comparison to his "peers."
Katherine (500+ years):
Unlike Damon, Katherine never stopped. Her comments about a "long list of victims" in season two, coupled with over 500 years of selfish existence, speak for themselves. While the exact number of victims is unknown, given her cruel and selfish behavior, as well as over 500 years of experience, it's safe to say she has a very high body count, more than Damon.
She betrayed everyone: Stefan and Damon, her friend Pearl, and the vampires from the tomb (whom she herself had turned) to save her own skin.
But here's the worst part: In Season 4, we learn that Katherine has made an entire town adore her, literally making them her slaves. This is worse than anything Damon has done in all the seasons.
Klaus (1,000+ years):
He's nothing to write home about. He's one of the first vampires, renowned for being the most brutal in history.
The Originals depicts his crimes in detail. Marcel's trial at the end of Season 3 only scratched the surface of his victims and the monstrous deeds he's committed over the course of a millennium.
Damon's actions were no different from those of a typical vampire villain at the beginning of the series. Klaus and Katherine's atrocities were systemic, global, and continued for centuries.
2. Treatment of loved ones and the depth of pain inflicted
We don't deny that Damon hurt Stefan (killing Lexi, trying to ruin his life) and Elena (killing Jeremy, being cruel to Caroline, killing Aaron). But this pales in comparison to what Klaus and Katherine did.
Klaus:
He systematically deprived his brothers and sister of happiness: stabbing them with daggers, putting them to sleep for years. He killed almost all of Rebekah's lovers.
He disregarded the feelings of even his most loyal brother, Elijah (the Katherine affair, the death of Celeste). The pain Klaus inflicted on his family was a relentless cycle that lasted for 1,000 years.
Even in his "path to redemption," Klaus continued to hurt his family, as shown in The Originals.
Katherine:
Her "loved ones" are just tools. She used and manipulated Stefan and Damon when they were human. She framed Pearl.
The Biggest Betrayal: In Season 5, Katherine betrayed her daughter, Nadia. She had a chance to find happiness and a family, but she was only concerned with revenge against Elena and her obsession with Stefan. This shows that even her maternal instinct couldn't outweigh her selfishness.
3. The Question of Treating Damon as a Villain
The argument that Damon "wasn't treated as a villain" is the most illogical:
In Season 1, when he was a pure villain, EVERYONE treated him with contempt. They worked with him only when necessary, always expressing hostility.
Over time, the characters came to terms with his behavior because they began to see him trying to improve, even though he remained "himself."
This isn't an "excuse" for the villain, but an acknowledgement of the character's evolution. Damon was forgiven because he changed. Katherine and Klaus didn't receive such forgiveness on The Vampire Diaries because their villainy was more fundamental and long-lasting.
Katherine only helped when it suited her. Klaus was generally a lesser evil compared to the greater threats that emerged afterward: his mother Esther, the evil Alaric, and Silas.
Bottom Line:
As a villain, Damon was never on Katherine's level, much less Klaus's.
You can't equate 178 years of impulsive cruelty (with periods of kindness) with 500 years of
relentless selfishness (with rare displays of humanity) and 1,000 years of systematic, global atrocities (with inner demons and scars).
I think people confuse Damon's impulsive cruelty with the cold, millennial malice of Klaus and Katherine. Do you agree?
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im on season 7 of the vampire diaries and its a little hard to watch since elena's magical coma honestly the only thing saving it for me is damon and bonnie's friendship
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